读者看中国 -- 英国泰晤士报

英国泰晤士报 (The Times),今天报道了小悦悦去世的消息。标题是:Hit-and-run toddler who Chinese ignored dies. (中国幼童死了。这个标题用了两个形容词:1)Hit-and-run: 遭车子撞倒后,司机逃逸的那个幼童。2)Chinese ignored: 中国人视而不见的那个幼童)

英国泰晤士报属英国大报,实施网上收费,因此,读者群相当特定:那些肯花钱上网看报的人 ,有一点教育水平的人。大街上的阿猫阿狗,都是不看这种大报的。因为是收费网站,相对的,留言者少,目前只有30几则。以下是其中几则:

1)Dylan Parmar  October 21, 2011 5:07 PM

和很多社会相比, 对于粗暴、野蛮,中国人的敏感度确实是淡化了。看看他们的近代史吧!因为政府的政策造成了饥荒,他们吃猫/狗/胎儿,把这些东西当成佳肴,残酷实施一胎化的手段,他们的国内生产总值沾满了血腥!

但是,谁在乎?这通通不关我们的事,只要我们的货物便宜就可以了……

The Chinese are definitely desensitized to human brutal(ity) than a lot of other human societies. Just look at their VERY recent history!

Famines due to Govt policies, eating cats/dogs/human fetus as a delicacy, the brutal way of enforcement of the One-Child Policy and “blood-smeared GDP”!
But, who cares right? It’s none of our business and we just want our goods cheap…….

2) San Toi  October 21, 2011 5:26 PM

你说中国人 “把胎儿当成佳肴” ?” 可以举出一些例子吗? eating ….. fetus as a delicacy ” Can you give us some evidence of this ?

3) Mark Saunders October 21, 2011 4:52 PM

这小女孩在哪里去世,不应该是问题的焦点。要多想一想那些扼制人的谴责/赔偿的的法令,在全世界,这些法令比人性更优先。

Let’s not focus on where the 2yr girl died but think about the prohibitive laws of blame/compensation that is overriding human nature worldwide.

4) Matt Pryor October 21, 2011 5:13 PM

你错了!我们要把焦点放在事件发生的地点。18个英国人不会不救一个垂死的孩子。

No, let’s focus on where it happened.

18 British people would not walk past a dying child.

5) Trev. October 21, 2011 9:14 AM

毛泽东在统治期间杀了7千万人,单单在1962年,就杀了2千万人。这个国家,在整个20 世纪,动物般的粗暴是常态,在国民党统治期间是如此,在共产党统治下更是如此,因为,他们牺牲了人民,来取得他们追求的极度权力的地位,造成了他们出现了 ‘去人性’ 的社会。

因此,小女孩去世这件事,只有一种人感到震惊,就是我们在西方的人。我想,那些走过小女孩身边的人,他们的心态,可说是真实凸现了他们那里和我们这里的分歧。

Mao killed 70 million people during his reign, and I think he managed 20 million of those in 1962 alone. This is a country whereby utter and complete animalistic brutality was the norm for the majority of the 20th Century under the Nationalists and even more so under the communists as they sacrificed the people to facilitate their want of super power status, ultimately dehumanising their own society. Therefore, the only people this comes as a shock to is us, here in the West. And I think the attitudes of those who walked past the child pretty much highlights this differing attitude over there as opposed to over here.

5) San Toi October 21, 2011 3:36 PM

让我回应 Trev   和其他所有心胸狭窄的人。

你们所表达的心态,是我在英国报章所读过最荒唐、最偏颇的。

你们为何不说,20世纪的欧洲,野蛮的程度,是整个人类历史中不曾出现过的,因此,这就证明了欧洲人都是与生俱来的反社会份子,完全漠视人类的痛苦?这和中国人不一样。中国人根本无法理解欧洲20世纪的各种战争和集体大屠杀。

我现在人在中国,我可以告诉你们这些极端偏狭者,中国人和我们一样,对这事件都感到悲愤和困惑。现在,中国人都在探索心灵和内省。

我对中国都市人的特色,有这样的理解。人是人 (太吃惊了吧!)拿伦敦人来做比较,中国人比伦敦人,恰恰更有社会意识,尽管中国存在绝对的贫穷,而伦敦存在的是相对的贫穷,中国人恰恰比伦敦人更具有社会意识。我在伦敦生活了27年。我想说的是,人是人,在一个公平的游戏场上,我们都是一样的。

Trev —  请不要怀有道德优越感,请你试着去了解整个问题,而不要跟着标题起哄。

抱歉,可能我这么说会伤害了你那因偏执而起的优越感,但我说的是事实,任何只有一半聪明的人都会这么想的。

@ Trev – and all the other bigots

The only thing I find odd about your post is that I am not tonight outraged by its obscenity ( must be the events of the last 24hours). However this is truly one of the most blindly bigoted sentiments I have ever read in a British newspaper – honestly.

You might as well have said, Europe in the 20th Century saw a level of barbarism that the human race had never seen in the entire history of human existence thus proving Europeans are innate sociopaths with a total indifference to human suffering – unlike the Chinese, who find the details of the various wars and genocides of the European 20th Century unfathomable.

I am in China right now – and I can assure maga-bigots like Trev that the Chinese are as saddened, outraged and perplexed by this incident as the rest of us – they are currently undergoing a lot of soul searching and self-examination.

Here is my observation on the Chinese urban character – people are people ( what a shocker ), and the Chinese are only slightly more socially aware than the people of say, London. The great city in which I have spent the last 27 years of my life. The Chinese are just slightly more socially aware and this despite the absolute level of poverty in China, as opposed to the relative poverty you find in London – but as i say, people are people and given an even playing field we are all the same.

So Trev – stop getting off on your moral superiority and try understanding the whole picture – rather than jerking to the headlines.

And sorry if this spoils your bigotry inspire superiority spasm – but it is the fact – and any half intelligent human being know it to be so.

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